tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18571515.post3609665523213830544..comments2023-05-15T02:04:05.918-07:00Comments on ReThinkReligion: Jesus Vs. RulesDevin The PoetWarriorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13642276164176796578noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18571515.post-27118138563828900122009-05-29T10:06:19.011-07:002009-05-29T10:06:19.011-07:00Cohabitation... tough one. It is things like that ...Cohabitation... tough one. It is things like that I would consider "Christian moral convictions"... if you are not a Christian then I shouldn't be judging you living with someone else. Why would we expect "sinners" not to sin? If I weren't a believer and had no faith and love of God I would be sinning- I couldn't see a reason not to. <br /><br />But things that are forcefully taking lives and/or health and/or wealth are what I would call "basic human rights".Devin The PoetWarriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13642276164176796578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18571515.post-39869974762813795322009-05-28T15:23:04.601-07:002009-05-28T15:23:04.601-07:00I believe I understand what you are saying, but it...I believe I understand what you are saying, but it seems you are introducing a matrix of "basic human rights" here to help you in your decision-making. Where did you get that matrix? How did you decide what those rights are? <br /><br />For example, you think that slavery, human trafficking and rape are worthy of judgment; but you don't think that cohabitation is worthy of judgment (even though it was a capital crime in the Old Testament). I think I know you well enough to say that you do think cohabitation is detrimental to society. Why then should the church not speak out against it? Or, are you saying that the church should speak out against cohabitation but not directly to those who are engaging in the practice?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18571515.post-63148159000352897222009-05-28T11:04:49.744-07:002009-05-28T11:04:49.744-07:00Great point here. As a "just war" and "death penal...Great point here. As a "just war" and "death penalty" advocate I say this: there are things you can do on this earth that will earn you the "human" punishment of death: war crimes, rape, child molestation, etc. But in no way to I wish those people hell and/or damnation. <br /><br />Avoiding judgment in this case is meant as avoiding holding lifestyle choices that do not physically harm others to our standard. E.g. I do not hold an atheistic drunkard to my standard of living but would fully advocate that person doing time in prison should they drive under the influence and hurt/kill someone else.<br /><br />The human trafficking is a HUGE problem because it is rape. slavery, and murder- affecting a another person's basic human rights... however, if a man and woman who are unmarried and have no Christian beliefs/convictions/community and are living together then I am not passing judgment. <br /><br />Let me know if I am still unclear on any of this.Devin The PoetWarriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13642276164176796578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18571515.post-21687918339495035312009-05-27T18:34:11.751-07:002009-05-27T18:34:11.751-07:00I think I understand the main thrust of your post ...I think I understand the main thrust of your post and agree with it. But I wonder if it dulls the ability of the church to speak out against the evils in society. For example, I think your comments could be construed to say that the church should not speak out against human trafficking because judging the world is "not our job." Can you help me understand how that is not what you're saying?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com